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Illinois gov. Pat Quinn on gun control.

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this asshole gets on pbs newshour and is talking about how illinois is a perfect subset of america and that the people of illinois "respect the lives of their babies" in reference to the school shooting. he goes on to say that these defenseless children need to be protected from the evils of assault rifles and high capacity magazines. he then referenced how children need to be protected and again said that the "babies" should be protected from someone stealing their lives prematurely. he then goes on a diatribe about how there is respect for life and those just starting life.

guess what....mr. pat quinn is a pro-choice democrat. an excerpt from his own website:

"Governor Quinn firmly believes that decision about a woman's body should be made by her and her doctor. He supports a woman's right to privacy and choice without restriction as embodied in Roe v. Wade.

In accordance with his beliefs that healthcare should not be predicated on income, Governor Quinn supports legislation restoring abortion coverage under the state Medicaid plan. In addition, he supports legislation to repeal Illinois' 1995 Parental Notice of Abortion Law.

THIS COUNTRY IS lanekiffin.gifING SICKENING. how is advocating a ban on weapons that POTENTIALLY can be turned on young "babies" any different than a procedure that will undoubtedly destroy a life?

and before anybody jumps in with " women have the right to do what they want with their bodies" i wholeheartedly agree, but unless women start spontaneously getting pregnant without engaging in sexual activity, many of you fail to see that women clearly are choosing to risk a pregnancy when they engage in consensual sex (which is the vast majority of abortions). i do not support the right of women to make a second choice because they made a s--tty first choice and got knocked-up.

are the lives of the 6 and 7 year-olds murdered in Connecticut better or more valuable than the 55 million lives lost after the Roe vs Wade decision? that my friends is hypocrisy at its purest form. this abortion supporting asshole is a prime example of what is wrong with america. hes not an asshole because he is a pro-choicer....rather, hes an asshole because he is cool with killing some babies and not cool with killing others. Either you are a preserver of life and innocence or you are NOT, either the murder of defenseless babies is acceptable or it is NOT, either you are for protecting the rights of women and citizens of the united states or you are NOT.

i dont want to turn this tragedy into an abortion issue, but its staggeringly hypocritical.

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this asshole gets on pbs newshour and is talking about how illinois is a perfect subset of america and that the people of illinois "respect the lives of their babies" in reference to the school shooting. he goes on to say that these defenseless children need to be protected from the evils of assault rifles and high capacity magazines. he then referenced how children need to be protected and again said that the "babies" should be protected from someone stealing their lives prematurely. he then goes on a diatribe about how there is respect for life and those just starting life.

guess what....mr. pat quinn is a pro-choice democrat. an excerpt from his own website:

"Governor Quinn firmly believes that decision about a woman's body should be made by her and her doctor. He supports a woman's right to privacy and choice without restriction as embodied in Roe v. Wade.

In accordance with his beliefs that healthcare should not be predicated on income, Governor Quinn supports legislation restoring abortion coverage under the state Medicaid plan. In addition, he supports legislation to repeal Illinois' 1995 Parental Notice of Abortion Law.

THIS COUNTRY IS lanekiffin.gifING SICKENING. how is advocating a ban on weapons that POTENTIALLY can be turned on young "babies" any different than a procedure that will undoubtedly destroy a life?

and before anybody jumps in with " women have the right to do what they want with their bodies" i wholeheartedly agree, but unless women start spontaneously getting pregnant without engaging in sexual activity, many of you fail to see that women clearly are choosing to risk a pregnancy when they engage in consensual sex (which is the vast majority of abortions). i do not support the right of women to make a second choice because they made a s--tty first choice and got knocked-up.

are the lives of the 6 and 7 year-olds murdered in Connecticut better or more valuable than the 55 million lives lost after the Roe vs Wade decision? that my friends is hypocrisy at its purest form. this abortion supporting asshole is a prime example of what is wrong with america. hes not an asshole because he is a pro-choicer....rather, hes an asshole because he is cool with killing some babies and not cool with killing others. Either you are a preserver of life and innocence or you are NOT, either the murder of defenseless babies is acceptable or it is NOT, either you are for protecting the rights of women and citizens of the united states or you are NOT.

i dont want to turn this tragedy into an abortion issue, but its staggeringly hypocritical.

Damn. I agree.

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As we all know Chicago is the pinnacle of low crime and gun safety.

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I'm gonna ask this question in the tone of the OP:

Are you arguing tht your right to own firearms is worth a few dozen dead elementary school children?

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I'm gonna ask this question in the tone of the OP:

Are you arguing tht your right to own firearms is worth a few dozen dead elementary school children?

If guns were outright 100% illegal, would it be impossible for someone to obtain it and commit the same act? Guns would be harder to obtain right? I mean, it's hard to obtain illegal narcotics right?

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This guy is a lanekiffin.gifing idiot. Ever hear of Chicago.. look at all their "gun laws" that seem to really be helping keep the murder rate low.

Again i say.. lanekiffin.gifing idiot.

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If guns were outright 100% illegal, would it be impossible for someone to obtain it and commit the same act? Guns would be harder to obtain right? I mean, it's hard to obtain illegal narcotics right?

Right! Why not roll back every gun registration law? They clearly have no effect on anything, ever!

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Right! Why not roll back every gun registration law? They clearly have no effect on anything, ever!

They don't. The incidences of mass shootings in the US have steadily gone up over the last 60 years, even though we've steadily passed more and more gun control laws. As they say, correlation isn't causation but you don't even have correlation...

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Right! Why not roll back every gun registration law? They clearly have no effect on anything, ever!

I don't think the issue are the weapons being used, but a problem as society. Our society is violent and we don't give enough help or outreach to people with mental instability. This Lanza kid was nutso and his family practically ignored it.

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They don't. The incidences of mass shootings in the US have steadily gone up over the last 60 years, even though we've steadily passed more and more gun control laws. As they say, correlation isn't causation but you don't even have correlation...

Okay defense department dude

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I don't think the issue are the weapons being used, but a problem as society. Our society is violent and we don't give enough help or outreach to people with mental instability. This Lanza kid was nutso and his family practically ignored it.

Some people in this country want to slash help and outreach until it disappears. Their answer to this problem is to arm everyone

Guess who I'm talking about

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Right! Why not roll back every gun registration law? They clearly have no effect on anything, ever!

Gun ownership i at a all time high in this country while violent crime in at a all time low. But of course those two statisitcs have nothing to do with each other do they?

Also why is it that cities with the most crime also correlate to have the strictest gun laws. Examples are Chicago / L.A. / D.C.

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I'm gonna ask this question in the tone of the OP:

Are you arguing tht your right to own firearms is worth a few dozen dead elementary school children?

YES without a question.

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They don't give a s--t what happens, as long as their cash flow is not impeded. It really is Christmas for gun peddlers everywhere

Says who?? Cause that's not what the NRA is saying. But you know better I assume.

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YES without a question.

Okay. I'll trust you to keep your mouth shut on abortion or anything related to Jesus then

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Says who?? Cause that's not what the NRA is saying. But you know better I assume.

Talk is cheap. Let's see them spend their increased profits after this incident on outreach and I'll believe their bulls--t

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Okay. I'll trust you to keep your mouth shut on abortion or anything related to Jesus then

I am pro choice and am willing to let anyone else believe anything they want to believe your problem is you believe you can cure evil with laws.

When there is individual liberty there will be evil. And when there is no individual liberty, there will still be evil - it simply wears a uniform and carries a title of authority.

There will always be human evil to contend with. And millions of Americans are distraught because they're currently wringing their hands in the realization that there simply is. no. complete. foolproof. answer.

So rather than wringing our hands in impotence that we simply cannot seem to find all the answers or create enough laws and regulations to extinguish all human evil, we should rather direct our efforts toward better and more effectively dealing with evil and protecting ourselves from it.

Individuals should be allowed and even encouraged to protect themselves. The threatened individual himself is always the first responder.

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It really irritates me when people argue for the wrong reasons. When you try to educate them they fight back almost willing to accept that ignorance is the best way to argue their way into their Utopian based idea of what the world should be.

You can rationalize all lanekiffin.gifing day with these people and they dont get it.

You can explain something to someone but you cant comprehend it for them

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I am pro choice and am willing to let anyone else believe anything they want to believe your problem is you believe you can cure evil with laws.

When there is individual liberty there will be evil. And when there is no individual liberty, there will still be evil - it simply wears a uniform and carries a title of authority.

There will always be human evil to contend with. And millions of Americans are distraught because they're currently wringing their hands in the realization that there simply is. no. complete. foolproof. answer.

So rather than wringing our hands in impotence that we simply cannot seem to find all the answers or create enough laws and regulations to extinguish all human evil, we should rather direct our efforts toward better and more effectively dealing with evil and protecting ourselves from it.

Individuals should be allowed and even encouraged to protect themselves. The threatened individual himself is always the first responder.

Well, there's the issue. I never had a problem with a family wanting to keep a firearm in the home for protection. However, there are entirely too many fake-ass tough guys waiting for the next militia to join that probably don't need 7 automatic rifles.

But hey, who's counting

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Right! Why not roll back every gun registration law? They clearly have no effect on anything, ever!

first intelligent political statement youve ever made.
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Well, there's the issue. I never had a problem with a family wanting to keep a firearm in the home for protection. However, there are entirely too many fake-ass tough guys waiting for the next militia to join that probably don't need 7 automatic rifles.

But hey, who's counting

As long as these fake ass tough guys handle their firearms legally you shouldnt give a damn. They have every right to have as many and within legal terms any type of gun they desire. Its not up to You or me to decide that.

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