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Auburn AD Jay Jacobs Might Claim More National Championships

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PASADENA, California - There are two parts to this national championship business.

Part One: Winning them.

Part Two: Recognizing them and celebrating them.

Auburn’s been better at the first part than the second part, but AD Jay Jacobs plans to change that.

At the moment, the school gives full recognition as national champions to its undefeated 1957 team, which won the AP title, and its unbeaten 2010 team, which won the BCS championship, but other Auburn teams have been named national champions by various selectors.

Jacobs said Auburn has been studying the subject, and there’s a good chance you’ll see other special teams from the past earn the same recognition from the school itself. He wants input on the subject from Auburn fans.

“I think we should go back and claim them,” he said. “I think we should count our national championships just as our peers do.”

The most likely candidates to be added to Auburn’s honor roll, according to the AD: 1910, 1913, 1914, 1983 and 2004.

Along with 1957 and 2010, that would give Auburn seven national championships with a chance tonight in the BCS Championship Game against Florida State to earn No. 8.

Jacobs himself played on Pat Dye’s 1983 team, which finished 11-1 after winning the SEC title and the Sugar Bowl and was named national champion by the New York Times.

“That one’s a little personal to me,” Jacobs said.

Tommy Tuberville’s 2004 team went 13-0, won the SEC and finished No. 2 in the AP and USA Today polls, but was shut out of a chance to play in the BCS Championship Game. USC won that game big over Oklahoma, but the BCS later stripped the Trojans of the title because of NCAA violations that included playing an ineligible player in Reggie Bush.

The BCS declined to name anyone as champion in USC’s place.

You’ll notice one of Auburn’s undefeated teams not on Jacobs’ list. It’s Terry Bowden’s 1993 team, which went 11-0 but was denied a chance to play in the SEC Championship Game and a bowl game because of NCAA probation from the Dye regime.

For that reason, Jacobs said, “the only one that gives me a little pause is 1993,” even though the National Championship Foundation named Auburn as a champion for that season retroactively.

“What you don’t want to do is make somebody think you’re making something up,” Jacobs said. “But if other schools are claiming their championships, why shouldn’t we claim ours?”

Alabama didn’t start recognizing some of its earliest national championship teams until the early 1980s, a move spearheaded by then-sports information director Wayne Atcheson. He claimed five titles from the pre-Bear Bryant years. Alabama now claims 15 total national championships.

A year ago, Texas A&M claimed national titles for 1919 and 1927 to bring the school’s total to three.

The whole debate can get a little silly. National titles have been awarded before bowl games and after bowl losses. They’ve been awarded decades after the fact when certain organizations went back and crunched the numbers.

If someone with some credibility has named your school a national champion, why not hang a banner and hand out rings?

“Let’s get them all championship rings,” Jacobs said. “That’s what I say. Why not?”

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Auburn isn't going to stoop to Bama levels, but at least if we did, all of our claims would be more legit than Bama's 1941 claim.

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i would be 1000% (in my case, that is 100% possible) behind msu claiming both '40 and '41. er'h body else is doing in, so why shouldnt we. there can only be 1 national champion, if by nothing else, by definition alone, but that said, i want my championships. they would look nice up in the davis wade stadium new expansion. that would be tight.

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i would be 1000% (in my case, that is 100% possible) behind msu claiming both '40 and '41. er'h body else is doing in, so why shouldnt we. there can only be 1 national champion, if by nothing else, by definition alone, but that said, i want my championships. they would look nice up in the davis wade stadium new expansion. that would be tight.

Y'all have a more legit claim to 1941 than Bama does... Considering y'all beat Bama, had a better record, and won the SEC...

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In Jacobs defense, he's just trying to get Auburn back into the headlines. Must be embarrassing that the greatest turnaround in NCAA football history has been swept aside by Alabama assistant coach drama.

#trollhard

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It's OK to laugh at this story, but not if you're an Alabama fan

as sanctimonious as some of the barner pricks have been about it...yeah, I can
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as sanctimonious as some of the barner pricks have been about it...yeah, I can

Even if we were to do that, you wouldn't see those of us who LOL at y'all going around claiming them, and even if we do (to piss y'all off), to my knowledge we didn't LOSE our bowl game in any of those years, more specifically we didn't lose our bowl game to the team we claim a championship over, and we didn't finish 3rd in the SEC in any of those years.

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Even if we were to do that, you wouldn't see those of us who LOL at y'all going around claiming them, and even if we do (to piss y'all off), to my knowledge we didn't LOSE our bowl game in any of those years, more specifically we didn't lose our bowl game to the team we claim a championship over, and we didn't finish 3rd in the SEC in any of those years.

Doesn't mean a damn thing how much we "claim", they'll always have 2, 3, 4 times as many as Auburn. And there is nothing you can say, or rap about it.

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This has been in the works for a few years now. Auburn fans have been trying to say we can legitimately claim 6 or 7, but I think the 1913 one is the only one with an overly legitimate claim.

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Break out the old poll names, time to eat some crow.

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Even if we were to do that, you wouldn't see those of us who LOL at y'all going around claiming them, and even if we do (to piss y'all off), to my knowledge we didn't LOSE our bowl game in any of those years, more specifically we didn't lose our bowl game to the team we claim a championship over, and we didn't finish 3rd in the SEC in any of those years.

paint it any way u want Vanilla Ice
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Even Jacobs the AD is eat up with Little Brother lol..

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Good for them. I have a lot of Auburn-fan-friends that struggled last season and they deserve something bright to look at. I really don't want to hear any BS though. I didn't hardly rib anyone after that abomination last season and they were one stupid Georgia player away from the Capital One Bowl.

Auburn gets a shot at the BCS NCG again this year. There's been so much hate from those fans against it since 2004. They really should have to take back much of what they said against the BCS to be able to claim the championship - should they win.

Hahahaha. Tidbit of insider info here. The Auburn Athletics Department is considering whether to back count championships should they win so all the hypocritical BS about Bama back-counting is eagle egg on their face.

sorry dude that insider info is about a year old. AND im guessing the university is too proud to claim what they have a good case to claim. Bama on the other hand...

+ Link to article just because improperly cited material kills me.

http://www.al.com/au...a_national.html

Link to previous discussion about it.

http://www.sectalk.com/board/topic/118277-if-auburn-wins-tonight-what-do-you-think-you-will-be-thinkingfeeling/page__st__15

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Doesn't mean a damn thing how much we "claim", they'll always have 2, 3, 4 times as many as Auburn. And there is nothing you can say, or rap about it.

Try back in a few years when I'll be able to link you to many sites that prove this wrong. Gus just needs a few in a row to get going.

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Even Jacobs the AD is eat up with Little Brother lol..

Wouldn't that make y'all the original little brother by going back in the early 80's and retroactively claiming a whole bunch of titles?

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This has been in the works for a few years now. Auburn fans have been trying to say we can legitimately claim 6 or 7, but I think the 1913 one is the only one with an overly legitimate claim.

A Championship Legacy

1900_varsity_Auburn_Tigers_football_team_from_Chrysalis_larger.jpg

:trollface:

Kudos to them for trying to break the red headed stepchild role though. They have gotten a lot better and though they have rarely had a national championship football team they have played very well throughout history.

"football experts in the '20s all knew that southern football was barely on a level with junior varsity play in the rest of the country."

IDK if southern football fit or didn't fit the perception of "football experts" in the early days, but you can't count that 1913 season as a NC without giving homage to the 1926 Rose Bowl.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1135109/

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A Championship Legacy

1900_varsity_Auburn_Tigers_football_team_from_Chrysalis_larger.jpg

:trollface:

Kudos to them for trying to break the red headed stepchild role though. They have gotten a lot better and though they have rarely had a national championship football team they have played very well throughout history.

"football experts in the '20s all knew that southern football was barely on a level with junior varsity play in the rest of the country."

IDK if southern football fit or didn't fit the perception of "football experts" in the early days, but you can't count that 1913 season as a NC without giving homage to the 1926 Rose Bowl.

http://sportsillustr...ine/MAG1135109/

Consider that it was the 20s and not one damn person could see all the teams in a year because tv didnt exist. So they are quoting experts who had the most limited exposure.

Also the civil war ended in 1860s so we are talking about a generation that had a automatic bias against anything southern.

Lets use a little common sense

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Try back in a few years when I'll be able to link you to many sites that prove this wrong. Gus just needs a few in a row to get going.

4 in my life time alone, I couldn't care less what you hope to prove.

It's sad actually.

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4 in my life time alone, I couldn't care less what you hope to prove.

It's sad actually.

no...whats sad is a 6 cylinder Challenger
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Three words.

Little. Brother. Syndrome.

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Three words.

Little. Brother. Syndrome.

Four words.

Alabama. Did. It. First.

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no...whats sad is a 6 cylinder Challenger

I'll remember to feel sad the next time I reminisce over how it's paid off already.

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4 in my life time alone, I couldn't care less what you hope to prove.

It's sad actually.

Alabama has won 10 national championships in my lifetime.
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