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When will Kirby Smart get a HC job?

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.....or will he be satisfied being Nick Saban's version of Mickey Andrews?

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Or waiting for Saban to retire to take charge of the juggernaut? He's allowed to be picky with his first choice of schools.

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He'll get tired of waiting and take some HC job in the SEC. My guess is it'll happen before Saban gets ready to leave, which may be a while depending on his motivation.That's how I see it going down at least, but make no mistakes about it...he hasn't been overly active in moving on.

Why would you though? We can make assumptions of him not wanting to leave his shadow or progress in his career, but when you're this successful and make this kind of money at a young age, what's the rush? He's only 37, so obviously he has many years left to prove his worth as a Head Coach. Calling plays for the nation's best program and best defensive unit year in and year out, well that's a job worth taking advantage of until something big comes along.

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Right at a million dollars a year and job security. Where is Gene Chizik today? It is a rough and tumble profession and you have to step out in the right direction or you'll fall right under the wheels of the bus.

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I don't think he's as hot a commodity as fans seem to think. There were some big jobs open this off-season and apparently nobody bothered to call him.

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I don't think he's as hot a commodity as fans seem to think. There were some big jobs open this off-season and apparently nobody bothered to call him.

I'll go with the idea that any coordinators that have 3 NC rings, no matter their participation in preparation, will be a hot commodity. But what do I know, guess I'm just a homer.

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I'll go with the idea that any coordinators that have 3 NC rings, no matter their participation in preparation, will be a hot commodity. But what do I know, guess I'm just a homer.

I have no doubt that he's received calls about being a coordinator. But y'all used to claim he was waiting for bigger jobs to come open. The "bigness" of the jobs that have come open the past couple years has been pretty big. He hasn't gotten any of them. Thus I'm forced to conclude that either he just doesn't want to be a HC, or those programs haven't offered him a job. It's a logical conclusion.

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I have no doubt that he's received calls about being a coordinator. But y'all used to claim he was waiting for bigger jobs to come open. The "bigness" of the jobs that have come open the past couple years has been pretty big. He hasn't gotten any of them. Thus I'm forced to conclude that either he just doesn't want to be a HC, or those programs haven't offered him a job. It's a logical conclusion.

Which jobs you eluding to? Maybe it's my Bama eyes again but I'm glad he didn't move on to Tennessee or Auburn, and realistically...how "big" are they right now? There are big jobs and then there are, "Is this the right situation for me?". Quite honestly I didn't see a fit for him in any of the job openings, maybe Arkansas but why would he want to play against Bama every year? I call that being realistic too though haha.

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I'll go with the idea that any coordinators that have 3 NC rings, no matter their participation in preparation, will be a hot commodity. But what do I know, guess I'm just a homer.

By your logic, teams should be lining up for Gene Chizik.

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By your logic, teams should be lining up for Gene Chizik.

Mmm, yeah. Because Gene Chizik had 3 NCs from a coordinator position??

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Its convenient being a D coordinator when your given the best highschool recruits year in and year out and have Saban as the HC. No doubt he's learning a lot from Saban tho

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Which jobs you eluding to? Maybe it's my Bama eyes again but I'm glad he didn't move on to Tennessee or Auburn, and realistically...how "big" are they right now? There are big jobs and then there are, "Is this the right situation for me?". Quite honestly I didn't see a fit for him in any of the job openings, maybe Arkansas but why would he want to play against Bama every year? I call that being realistic too though haha.

It is your Bama eyes. The offers simply don't get any better than UT, Auburn or Arkansas. If he didn't want any of those because he would have had to play Bama every year then I doubt anybody would really want him, because if you're not driven to compete with the best, then why should anybody hire you?

I don't think anybody except Auburn had serious talks with him though. Apparently nobody at Wisconsin or Texas Tech or any of the other BCS programs showed interest either.

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It is your Bama eyes. The offers simply don't get any better than UT, Auburn or Arkansas. If he didn't want any of those because he would have had to play Bama every year then I doubt anybody would really want him, because if you're not driven to compete with the best, then why should anybody hire you?

I don't think anybody except Auburn had serious talks with him though. Apparently nobody at Wisconsin or Texas Tech or any of the other BCS programs showed interest either.

Well then if it's my Bama eyes, it's your Georgia eyes. You obviously have posted a little jilted since he turned down UGA, that's alright though...we get that. Maybe you should consider him to be "spoiled" or "snobby" then? Why move on from Bama when it's realistically the job he could ultimately have? None of those jobs compare to it naturally, you know it...I know it.

Auburn is a dumpster fire with idiots running the show, Tennessee the same but more of a chance to rebound. Arkansas is Arkansas, a solid job but too tall of a task. Personally it doesn't hurt my feelings at all if he's not a "hot commodity". Means more success here at Bama for us fans, but the fact his name comes up in every head coach opening leaves me to believe you're just as biased on this topic as I am.

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It is your Bama eyes. The offers simply don't get any better than UT, Auburn or Arkansas. If he didn't want any of those because he would have had to play Bama every year then I doubt anybody would really want him, because if you're not driven to compete with the best, then why should anybody hire you?

I don't think anybody except Auburn had serious talks with him though. Apparently nobody at Wisconsin or Texas Tech or any of the other BCS programs showed interest either.

I aprecciate that you are trying to rain on the Bama parade.

I just don't have the strength to join you.

They are blind.

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Mmm, yeah. Because Gene Chizik had 3 NCs from a coordinator position??

yeah he had 2 basically, and 1 as a head coach, so really hes a hotter commodity than smart. Do I believe you're wrong? no, do I believe your logic is s--tty? yes.

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Well then if it's my Bama eyes, it's your Georgia eyes. You obviously have posted a little jilted since he turned down UGA, that's alright though...we get that. Maybe you should consider him to be "spoiled" or "snobby" then? Why move on from Bama when it's realistically the job he could ultimately have? None of those jobs compare to it naturally, you know it...I know it.

Auburn is a dumpster fire with idiots running the show, Tennessee the same but more of a chance to rebound. Arkansas is Arkansas, a solid job but too tall of a task. Personally it doesn't hurt my feelings at all if he's not a "hot commodity". Means more success here at Bama for us fans, but the fact his name comes up in every head coach opening leaves me to believe you're just as biased on this topic.

"His name comes up in every head coach opening..." according to who, exactly? It seems to me the only reason his name comes up is because fans and the media in general are accustomed to throwing his name out there, despite whether it's true or not. You can call me jilted or whatever. The fact remains that a TON of big time jobs have come open the past couple of years and he's been seriously considered for none of them. Except maybe Auburn.

Your ultimate explanation is that he's waiting for the Alabama job to come open. So who's the one being biased here? Like I said before, either he doesn't want to be a HC, and is too comfortable in Saban's shadow, or he's not the hot commodity in the coaching searches that the media/fans make him out to be. Because if he WAS, and he wanted to be a HC, then he'd have gotten a job by now.

The excuse from y'all used to be "he's waiting for a bigger job to open." Well, now jobs at UT, Arkansas, Wisconsin, Cal, Texas Tech, etc etc, have all come open and been filled, and Kirby wasn't considered for any of them. So what's the explanation?

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Well then if it's my Bama eyes, it's your Georgia eyes. You obviously have posted a little jilted since he turned down UGA, that's alright though...we get that. Maybe you should consider him to be "spoiled" or "snobby" then? Why move on from Bama when it's realistically the job he could ultimately have? None of those jobs compare to it naturally, you know it...I know it.

Auburn is a dumpster fire with idiots running the show, Tennessee the same but more of a chance to rebound. Arkansas is Arkansas, a solid job but too tall of a task. Personally it doesn't hurt my feelings at all if he's not a "hot commodity". Means more success here at Bama for us fans, but the fact his name comes up in every head coach opening leaves me to believe you're just as biased on this topic as I am.

if you honestly believe auburn will not rebound within the next two years you are more of a homer than I thought. That or you just haven't been paying attention...

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yeah he had 2 basically, and 1 as a head coach, so really hes a hotter commodity than smart. Do I believe you're wrong? no, do I believe your logic is s--tty? yes.

To even bring up Gene Chizik, after his dumpster fire of a season...compared to a coordinator who hasn't even had his shot...

Yeah, both of you have s--ttier logic.

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if you honestly believe auburn will not rebound within the next two years you are more of a homer than I thought. That or you just haven't been paying attention...

Doesn't matter if you rebound or not, with Jay Jacobs and Pat Dye there...Auburn is a joke. Wake up young one.

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I've said this for quite awhile re: Smart - He's going to have to either take a job as DC for another school and prove his worth as a coach when the best talent in the country isn't handed to him and he hasn't got Saban looming over him, or he's going to have to take a job at a less prestigious program and prove it there first. He's not going to get a job like Bama or Southern Cal or Florida or Georgia as his first HC gig.

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To even bring up Gene Chizik, after his dumpster fire of a season...compared to a coordinator who hasn't even had his shot...

Yeah, both of you have s--ttier logic.

we didn't you did good lord man you're the one who said any coordinator with 3 natty rings should be considered, well, gene has 2 one as a head coach one as a D co and an undefeated season where he got JOBBED at AUBURN who is apparently a joke? da fuq? you wake up old man.

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"His name comes up in every head coach opening..." according to who, exactly? It seems to me the only reason his name comes up is because fans and the media in general are accustomed to throwing his name out there, despite whether it's true or not. You can call me jilted or whatever. The fact remains that a TON of big time jobs have come open the past couple of years and he's been seriously considered for none of them. Except maybe Auburn.

Your ultimate explanation is that he's waiting for the Alabama job to come open. So who's the one being biased here? Like I said before, either he doesn't want to be a HC, and is too comfortable in Saban's shadow, or he's not the hot commodity in the coaching searches that the media/fans make him out to be. Because if he WAS, and he wanted to be a HC, then he'd have gotten a job by now.

The excuse from y'all used to be "he's waiting for a bigger job to open." Well, now jobs at UT, Arkansas, Wisconsin, Cal, Texas Tech, etc etc, have all come open and been filled, and Kirby wasn't considered for any of them. So what's the explanation?

Have you been under a rock? You can attempt to refute it bro, but it is what it is. He's unproven and I want him as our DC. So take whatever shot you want at a coordinator that turned down his alma-mater, because it was apparently a down move. I get where you're coming from like I said, I see the motivation for this whole topic that you spew your Jawja juice on. It's entertaining at most, but it does get tiring. We'll go around in circles with your same old s--t and even though you're wrong about 90% of the time, you'll give your biased opinion and can't dispute the facts.

No one likes winners I guess, and it won't get any prettier around here. :trollface:

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we didn't you did good lord man you're the one who said any coordinator with 3 natty rings should be considered, well, gene has 2 one as a head coach one as a D co and an undefeated season where he got JOBBED at AUBURN who is apparently a joke? da fuq? you wake up old man.

LOL, getting bent out of shape again little penguin...calm down. Gene Chizik had his shot and is irrelevant to the conversation. You and the Dawg guy proposed the question as if this season didn't happen, well it did and that logic is a joke. Chizik will in fact be considered for small jobs because of his success, so in a sense...I'm still right.

All things considered, a coordinator with three NC rings will in fact be considered for a lot of head coaching jobs. I could care less if he's seriously considered or not, him being at Alabama is a MAJOR part of our consistent success. Due to recruiting, preparations and the fire he brings. The facts are there, no need to go around in circles here.

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Have you been under a rock? You can attempt to refute it bro, but it is what it is. He's unproven and I want him as our DC. So take whatever shot you want at a coordinator that turned down his alma-mater, because it was apparently a down move. I get where you're coming from like I said, I see the motivation for this whole topic that you spew your Jawja juice on. It's entertaining at most, but it does get tiring. We'll go around in circles with your same old s--t and even though you're wrong about 90% of the time, you'll give your biased opinion and can't dispute the facts.

No one likes winners I guess, and it won't get any prettier around here. :trollface:

What facts have I not disputed? I'm the only one talking about facts here. You just keep falling back on Alabama's national titles, which have nothing to do with the subject.

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